>> mitch mcconnell, your colleague, your counterpart in the senate, has made it clear that even though these were senate bills that were passed by republicans, that he won't put them back on the floor unless the president approves of them. how do you get around conundrum? >> i think what mitch mcconnell is doing, and i say this as respectfully as possible is saying we're not needed. congress might as well stay home. all we need is one, one person to show up, donald trump. and that's not what our founders had in mind. they talked about coequal branches of government. article i, the legislative branch, the people's branch of government. >> and joy reid joins me now. again, counting down to that town hall here tonight. joy, a lot of interesting stuff in here. but to connect it to what we've been talking about, what everybody is talking about right now, the shutdown is still