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that and having spent time around trump supporters and the. ka pain. they are not party loyal. they are candidate loyal. a lot of supporters i found in states like ohio and across the country are open to looking at democrats. at least that's what they have told me. i think someone will have to pick up the mantle. whether it's bernie sanders who had crossover in terms of the message on trade with trump in 2016. i think someone will have to pick up the mantle. it could be joe biden or bernie sanders. it's a lane that's open for the taking. if joe biden doesn't jump in the question is who the next person to assume the mantle will be. that's what i'm watching for. >> the dignity of work. that four word phrase is something we heard from brown over and over. can that be picked up?

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