now we're taking steps on how we stop it from happening again. >> reporter: i would also add that the president himself has acknowledged that nobody really wants to be impeached, although my reporting is that the president privately has talked about the idea that impeachment may not be the worst thing for him since he is looking back to the example of bill clinton. >> pete, i want to get to the question of the motive. what do you think of the motive of the special counsel and why he came ford? first of all, it seems to be he is saying i'm not going to testify. that is one fact. but what did he think he would get done in terms of tomorrow's headlines that he didn't get through barr in the initial 400 page report? >> reporter: you're right he said he wasn't going to testify and that no one was keeping him