today. so what are the tools here? what is the way out of this? and it's not impossible that listening to music that has been about the search for a more perfect union could help us. because you can listen to a song, again, that you disagree with more easily. >> one of the things that unique about this tandem here, you have this great recollection and knowledge base to talk about the history of these songs, but what tim brings, and i thought the sam cook part of the book, you know, i read it a couple of days ago. the instant you offered as an artist, he's in his prime here. and you, better than anyone, understands what it's like. you understand humble and kind which turned out to be one of your biggest songs of your career, but at the time you may not have known that. and taking that artistic risk to make a statement about where we are in society at this moment in time and bringing that into the story about sam cook in this case, that shows and illustrates