that thfeeds into the notion of it's open borders? >> we had previous to trump administration, it was a civil offense, not criminal offense. that's the distinction they're speaking of. that doesn't mean you get to stay in the united states indefinitely. you still go through an asylum hearing. we maintain the family case management program where 99 to 100% of families showed up, they were treated with respect and dignity and if they're able to stay, or not, their rr deported but in between they're treated as fellow human beings fleeing difficult circumstances and with respect and decency. >> four years ago this is what you wrote about bernie sanders. it is time to recommit ourb selves to the vision off a country that measures the nation's success not at board room table, but at kitchen tables across america. bernie sanders stands for that a acu.