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i don't want to second-guess the skill at defending her membership, but if you are going to make people take a hard vote, make them do it now. in six months it probably is true that we moved on to other outrage and people will not vote on the basis of a vote that their congress person took right now. >> jason? >> i agree. it doesn't make sense if you say it's not going to matter, what's the problem with doing the vote now. pelosi has a perfect example. you had democrats take a huge hit for voting for the health care. it was a huge problem. does anyone think that 31 democrats will lose their seat for voting for impeachment? i doubt it. it's not as unpopular as the affordable care act was nine years ago. i don't understand this calculation. >> i think this is what they think and it's not a bad point. they took a hit and lost the majority over the affordable care act. they still have health care even with all we have been through. i'm not defending that. >> that is a distinction, but to your point, having covered that fight extremely closely, pelosi was the one with basically the knife in people's back, pushing off the plank. she cared that much. >> people were saying it's not going to happen with the election in massachusetts. you win majorities to do big things. with the affordable care act, it happened. it's not perfect, but millions got care. she sees this differently. >> it's frustrating from the house. john boehner and paul ryan learned. there is also the question of the democratic party and all those folks that you covered in columns in the run up to 2018 who were motivated in the

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