you could be for or against the tax cuts. but what you can't say is that it made the difference in deficits going forward. it's about, without the tax cuts the federal government is expected to take in about $43 trillion. >> sure but have the tax cuts paid for themselves? >> no of course they're not going to pay for themselves and i never said they would. >> but the republican party did. that's what paul ryan did. that's what steve mnuchin did. >> i can't go on somebody else's words. >> you were voting with them and supporting that argument so to say to us of course it didn't pan out, i'm sorry, sir, but of course doesn't seem appropriate. >> wait, wait. it was originally ron wyden's bill. he is the democrat from the west coast. who said we've got to do something about making our corporate environment more inviting for capital and investment. >> sure. that could be 31% or 29% or 27% but we got to 21% which isn't even what corporate america