Places like chicago erik los angeles, theyre speaking out. Great work there, larry. Love the show. Lets get right to it. Thanks for watching the evening edit. Former Deputy Assistant attorney general tom dupree joining us now. This news, three cases against former President Trump, looks like theyre hitting a wall. Democrats started out the year, they were going to throw trump in jail, get biden reelected. Do you think all of them could be delayed past the election . If were talking jack smiths classified documents case, the 2020 case and now the georgia to 2020 case is hitting the wall too. I do think theyre all going to get delayed past the election, liz. Look, these cases are falling like dominoeses. When this year began, i think all the antitrump fors were very optimistic they would bring him to trial in four cases. Obviously, one is happening, but i think the other three are going to get pushed back until after the election. These cases raise complicated legal issues, these judges say they need time to solve and figure out what the law is in these case ands a lot of it is attributable to the prosecutors own delay in bringing some of those cases, namely the jack smith cases. And fani willis case is being delayed because of her illadvised decision to have an affair with one of her own president s. Thats the riggs for the delay in georgia reason for the delay in georgia. Elizabeth were going to dig into it in the b block later on. The georgia 2020 case, the Appeals Court is going to hear President Trumps bid to disqualify d. A. Fani willis from that case for conflictses of interest, as you point out, hiring her boyfriend on the case who then took themselves on luxury trips, and the Supreme Court is hearing trips immunity claim trumps immunity claim too. These are all hitting a wall. They really are, liz. And, look, the fact is, is the prosecutors jack smith could have moved sooner. Instead, he chose the take several years to build his cases. They filed the cases not too far before the election, and it shouldnt surprise anyone that the higher Appellate Courts including the United StatesSupreme Court wants to take a look at these legal issues. That is how our system works. For the prosecutors now to say everything has to be hustled, you can violate the defendants Constitutional Rights by deciding these issues on a fast docket, thats just not going to happen, not going to happen. Elizabeth yeah, wow, what a period of time if were in. That new york case, tom, it looks like that one may be the only one possibly decided before the election, but its got major credibility problems too. Stormy daniels is going to take the stand again tomorrow. Tom, what was the proprobative value of Stormy Daniels testimony testifying about her one night stand with the former president in did that have any bearing on the case, or was it just prejudicial value . The judge admonished her to stop, but he didnt stop it. Jurors cant unhear that. Thats exactly right. E when youre at a point where even the judge with said that went too far and the jurors heard things that they should not have heard, you know theres a problem. Look, yesterday was not the prosecutors finest day, in my opinion. They went way overboard in getting this testimony from Stormy Daniels that, as you correctly point out, had limited if any relevance to any issue in this case. Of course it was salacious, it was or sordid, it got headlines. But as far as having legal relevance to the charges that the d. A. Has brought, the alleged falsification of Business Records wasnt relevant at all to that. Elizabeth you know, the credibility of this new york case, its got an undertone of reasonable doubt. Stormy daniels, Michael Cohen already said trump had nothing to do with the9 payments. The a personal payment that he made in a nondisclosure agreement. Now those two are recanting that. We dont know where they stand on it. Where is the hard evidentiary proof . This is an 18yearold story. Its a state books and records misdemeanor that the expired seven years ago that d. A. Bragg saabed back into life claiming. Hes charged d he wouldnt even know what hes charging. He didnt even cite what the violation is. Ing do the payments made to Stormy Daniels come from trumps 201 president ial campaign . Well, look, you put your finger on about a 17 of the different weaknesses in the d. A. s case here, right . [laughter] a super or aggressive legal theory. I think their bigger problem is, frankly, the one you identified which is to say that their case at the end of the day is going the rise and fall on the testimony of two witnesses who are highly compromised to say the least. And i think the jury is going to have serious questions about what Stormy Daniels testified to and about what Michael Cohen is going to testify to. These are damaged witnesses. Even the other witnesses the prosecution have called all said they dont trust Michael Cohen, they dont believe what he says, so why should this jury . Elizabeth tom, youre right, im a supergeek. Were birds of a feather. You know, wed love to get your reaction to this. Watch cnns ellie hoenig on this. But the crossexamine, boy, her responses were disastrous. Do you hate donald trump . The yes, of course she does. Thats a big reason. Thats a big deal, thats a big damn deal. And shes putting out tweets fantasizing about him being in jail . That undermines the credibility. If we we think about this strategically, prosecutors have stressed throughout this case, theyve stressed to the public in their public statement, this is not a case about sex. This is a case about Business Records, falsifying Business Records. And i have to say this also, kate, prosecutors took some cheap shots yesterday in their examination of Stormy Daniels. Elizabeth okay. And now this, so now star witness Michael Cohen, hes going to testify. Tom, by his own admission, Michael Cohen said he lied in court, lied to the media. Hes pleaded guilty to lying to congress. Thats a stunning amount of credibility everybody shoes, and now jim jordan and james comer today just referred Michael Cohen to the Justice Department to currently prosecute him for lying to Congress Half a dozen times. Final word. My final word is this Michael Cohen could possibly be the least credible witness ever to take the stand in an american courtroom. And the d. A. Has a huge battle on their hands to persuade someone with an adjudicated history of being a liar that this time, this time hes finally telling the truth. Elizabeth tom dupree, thank you so much. Lets get right to american majority ceo ned ryan and gop strategist ford oconnell. Ned, you know, the media, msnbc, cnn, theyre focusing hard on the lewd details, for example, the Stormy Daniels testimony in the trump case. You know, ned, they keep acting stunned that trump is not going down in the polls. Do voters care trump slept with a porn star nearly 20 years ago in it looks like they care measure more about the issues hitting america. I think they see all of this for the sham that it is, that its political lawfare. And ive been of this opinion for a while, liz, which is the only reason its going to breakthrough to them, theyre going to realize they were started on very spurious potential legal grounds because it was all politics. And now, as you mentioned earlier, theyre all hitting the wall. I have to tell you though i dont think its going to change many minds regardless of what happens in the new york city courtroom. I think people look at it, if you were going to vote for trump, youre still going the vote for trump regardless of what happens. If you werent going to vote for him, youre going to vote against him no matter what happens in that courtroom. I think this elections about seven key states and who has the most ballots and who collects the most ballots, and some this is just a side show. Elizabeth what ned if just said. Ford, twothirds of a quinnipiac poll said the conviction would not change who they vote for. So it looks like the game plan is backfiring. This was supposed to be bidens glide path to victory. His Approval Rating stuck near historic low, the worst of any u. S. President in modern american history, just 35 in quinnipiac. You know, ford, are americans out there saying we dont care about whats going on, we care about inflation, the border collapse, crime, safety, taxes going up to pay for bidens government overspending . You know, you got this new pbs maris poll, more than half of independent swing voters, 53 of them believe a biden second term will, quote, weaken america. Well, first of all, neds a thousand percent right when it comes to the man hat manhattan trial9 and the need to collect ball toes in the six or seven battleground states that are going to decide this election. Theres a reason why nearly 60 of americans disapprove of joe biden. Its because his presidency season an is an utter failure. Inflation is out of control, the economy is weak, the borders wide open, the middle east is on fire, and is we have antisemitic protests on College Campuses. Let me tell you something, the four years of donald trump look fantastic compared to joe biden. Elizabeth so the final question to both of you. Do these fire up trumps base or bidens a base . First to you, ned. I think theyre going to fire up trumps base. And i think when you look at the low approval numbers for biden, i think its going to act as a suppression if on his voting base. Who wants to get excited to collect ballots for the decrepit joe biden with his terrible policies . Elizabeth ford, final word. The key to trumps victory is turning out infrequent voters in those 67 states followed by pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan. Elizabeth interesting. Ned ryan, ford oconnell, thanks for joining us tonight. Weve got a hot show. A lot of news coming in, new developments. Weve got senators Marsha Blackburn and Markwayne Mullin both from senate armed services. From house Small Business, congressman dan meuser. Former home depot ceo bob nardelli, former federal prosecutor katie cher cover sky. President biden is struggling to change the narrative away from growing campus protests over gaza. But hes doing it towards spending more of your taxpayer money. That will ignite inflation and require new tax hikes to pay for it. Look at this, a new politico poll, voters not paying attention to bidens spending on climate and infrastructure. 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Late yesterday in a written order the judge said because of the classified issues and multiple pretrial motions, it would be, quote, imprudent and inconsistent with the courts duty to finalize a new trial start date at this time. Two obvious challenges for scheduling is that trump is in the middle of a hush money trial in new york right now and the sensitivity of the classified documents at the center of this case. Trump pleaded not guilty to mishandling classified documents seized from his home in maralago back in 2022. During this case those documents have to be handled with care and viewed in a special room called a scif, a soundproof program protected from electronic eavesdropping. This has already caused delays in the case since preparation takes a lot more time. Cannon set a series of pretrial motions through july 22nd to work out legal issues, so the case still moving can forward even though we dont have a new start date. This afternoon there was a schedule scheduled hearing for this case. Unlike the trial in new york, the public or the media was not given access. Elizabeth . Elizabeth great reporting there, thank you so much. Lets welcome to the show former federal prosecutor katie cher day sky. Your reaction to what you just heard. The democrats and the immediate what are getting hysterical. Theyre slamming the judge saying she should be removed from the case, but isnt what she said typical and ordinary, that until all this is resolved, they cant go to trial yet . Its absolutely ordinary. It was always a ridiculous and optimistic idea that this case could go before the election. That was an artificial if timeline. The election has nothing to do with preparing a very complex if case to go to trial. Weve seen whats going on in new york. Thats just a simple misdemeanor case thats taking months on end to present. The classified dock documents case with all of the issues handling classified documents involved is highly complex. The judge has casedispositive motions to decide before this case can move forward, not to mention the immunity decision from the Supreme Court could directly impact that case as well, so this is no surprise. Elizabeth elizabeth katie, theres also this problem, you know, jack smith admit admitted in a court filing that federal investor s did not properly maintain the evidence after that august 2022 raid on maralago. The question is now about chain of custody. You know, the photos that went viral of those classified records at maralago, it looks like they were staged. The fbi agents reportedly put the records into folders with scary yellow and red classified cover sheets on them saying things like top secret, then laid them strewn out on the floor and took photos to make it look like trump kept them like that at a maralago. That made it worse and pretty incriminating for trump at the time. You know, trump said this was staged, he said it was phony. The Washington Post attacked him, media attacked him. Now it look like what he was saying was right. [laughter] yes. The prosecutors have mishandled classified documents in the case where theyre accusing former President Trump of mishandling classified documents. Its almost a joke. So, yes, certainly the idea that there was mishandling of discovery, that has to be the litigated. I dont know if that rises to the level of prosecutorial misconduct, but certainly the defense is going to raise all of these issues. The idea generally