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battle field. these guys are not trained to fight a conventional fight much less deal within environmental threat threat like that. this is about taking it serious. i believe the biden administration has reported they are talking to putin and surrogates about the consequences here. i hope we are very direct about what those consequences would. it brings the united states and nato into it. not to use nuclear weapons, we would not do that, i don't even think we would use a significant amount of ground troops. largely destroying the military inside of ukraine. he knows that in so doing military people. he wants to win the war. if he uses a nuclear weapon it guarantees he loses. >> let's talk about another. sixty 60 minutes the president said last week that we would come to taiwan's defense if they