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>> john: what is the business? >> i'm not an expert on hunter biden. he has explained them, written a book -- >> john: just selling influence? >> what is he selling? does he own a company? >> i don't know the hunter biden business. >> the answer is he doesn't. >> neither do you -- i don't know what hunter biden does. but he has business, if they want to investigate that, they are welcome to investigate that. just throwing out blatant accusations about things is ridiculous to say, and to say that like -- >> what is the blatant accusation here? >> can i finish? and to say the kushner family was experienced in business, he has failed at real estate in new york city. that's a pretty impressive thing to do when your dad gives you billions of dollars. if the oversight committee has stuff, put it out there. show the american people what they have. don't go on tv and tease it out. it's not helpful to the political discourse. >> john: we have to jump, we are out of time. >> sandra: thank you very much. elon musk with a warning on