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ambassador. she has worked at the administration level. i think these are things that qualify her above the others. i look at how they enter a room and it is one of the things we benefit from in iowa is the ability to be in a room with all these people if we choose to. and i believe that nikki has the strongest presence when she enters a room and deals with a room. >> dana: dennis, how is this caucus period compared to others in the past? are people more engaged, less engaged, about the same? >> well, i think people are very engaged. whether they are more engaged than 2016. it was highly engaged. i do believe that this is one of the strongest engagements of the population in iowa. so turnout, as your lead-in with president trump indicated, will people stay home?