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>> i'd kill you. >> that's right. >> martha: scene from the hit show "yellowstone".some say that it is sort of calling out woke culture for labelling masculinity as toxic as some people criticize during a conversation on the joe rogan experience podcast, the two discussed the creator of the show and joe rogan discussed how social activists are dividing the country, they say, by vilifying gender norms. listen to this conversation. >> defund the police, toxic masculinity. >> that worked great. >> they're in the same category of things. seems silly to think that way. you need all of it, masculinity and femininity. >> there's these new words that are meant to keep one person from disagreeing with another

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