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9% of automobiles in virginia that are purchased are electric vehicles do turn around and mandate that 35% of them have to be electric vehicles imposes an extraordinary economic burden. >> sandra: that sounds like common sense. he says i'm not against the evs, but when you only have a certain percentage of the market that wants them, where are we talking about double-digit mandates in some states? >> if you are the government and trying to push people and new technology going to get people to do that, you do that through the use of tax incentives. to your point about glenn youngkin, it is common sense to say if you want to buy and ev, last month, the last couple of months, evs represent somewhere around 8% of sales or so. high single digit of sales. there is demand for it. not as much as people wanted. the result is what we are seeing now. >> sandra: you have a democratic senator in oregon