Protests rocking campuses nationwide. Six blocks away where protesters have raised the palestinian flag. Sandra and continue to waive them as well and showing our nations first president that universitys namesake covered up with a palestinian flag and scarf. John welcome to our two of America America reports im john roberts in washington where all of this is happening. Sandra we are watching all of it, good to be with you im sandra smith in new york and ucla Campus Workers are left to clean up that encampment that police cleared in the early hours of the morning. They arrested thousands of protesters after a violent cl clash. John lets bring in doug waxman who is a professor of Israel Studies and director of the y and s Nazarene Center for Israel Studies, thank you for joining us we really appreciate it. You say that you understand the situation of the palestinians in gaza. But then at the same time, these protests do appear to be problematic. Yes. I concurred that while many of the students involved in these protests genuinely are appalled by what is happening over the last six months, some of the organizations behind these protests in palestine have a more extreme agenda they have expressed in the past with resistance against israel which can include terrorism against israel so i think they object to that organization specifically but also more broadly to some of the demands and slogans and charms of the protests. I support their right to engage in Peaceful Protest but have taken issue with specific chants and slogans unde and demands. Sandra more than one occasion we heard a student on here a moment ago who said a student was attacked on campus, we have students on here who have been spent on and beyond. I mean, let alone they cant go to school. They cant go to class. They cant go to graduation, so this is having a bigger impact than an occasion. How do you think the occasions were if this does sour and does include violence how should it be handled . I think as much as possible University Administration should try to deescalate. Should try to resolve the situation peacefully to talk to the protesters to try to essentially persuade them to stand down and move out of these encampments. So i think as much as possible they should avoid bringing in Law Enforcement without letting the situation escalates very what we saw happen ten days ago resulted in these spread of protests across United States and escalating attention so the goal is to deescalate. And to prioritize safety of all students both in these Protests Encampments and others on the campus as well while ensuring these encampments dont disrupt classes, dont disrupt the students to go about their lives and study and dont result in any kind of unlawful harassment discrimination or targeting against any students. For jewish students and nonjewish students. Its a difficult balance in that administration to be able to allow students to protest while at the same time ensuring that protest does not spillover into harassment or violence or disrupting the business of the university. So i think they are in a very difficult position. Some administrations i think are in balance and others at ucla in the past few days relief its terrible for the university as a whole and the students. John professor waxman, as we have seen in many other College Campus is across the country, protesters there at ucla are calling for investment from israel. They are also calling for the Nazarene Center of which you are the director, to be defunded. You say the Nazarene Center has no ties whatsoever to israel. That begs the question, do these protesters really know what the heck they are talking about . I think particularly in the case of a egregious demand, i dont agree with the demand with taking away from israeli academic institutions but not israeli Academic Centers and ucla which has no ties makes no sense to me. I do think that there is this impulse particularly as said by the more extreme groups organizing these protests like students of justice in palestine to seize upon the sympathy of students feeling for palestinians showing the support they have for palestinians and to really turn this into a demand to cut ties with israel. I dont think its productive and i dont think it will be effective either certainly not in times of war. Sandra you just describe what you call a delicate balance for them to handle situations. Since one is punishing lawlessness, people breaking the law, why is that a delicate balance . I mean you have demonstrators occupying buildings, that is trespassing. You have the decimation of property at George Washington. They are vandalizing a statue which is against the law. I mean you have antisemitic slurs, threats to peoples lives happening. Why isnt that punishable question requires that a delicate balance . I mean suggesting a university and administration should not punish students who violate the laws of the university, and certainly they should not have an exceptions of vandalism or property damage. But we have to recognize that there are students who have strong feelings about what is happening in gaza and this issue. I think they need to be given an opportunity and a space to peacefully protest as long as those protests remain peaceful. I mean, it is a question of what is the best means to respond to these protests or to respond to the violations of university policy. And i think the best way to respond to that is not by escalating the situation further and having a very draconian or heavyhanded approach but rather trying to deescalate the situation but ultimately s, if students are found to be in violation of university and then is to be Disciplinary Procedures in the investigation. But that needs to happen i think as much as possible according to regulations in the University Rather than bringing in Law Enforcement for example which tends to escalate tensions or create worse situations. John i feel they want A Bridge Too Far and they tried to negotiate with them even after the initial Police Presence there felt that was their only point of recourse. Professor waxman thank you for joining us we appreciated. Sandra thank you. On to nyu where we continue to watch the scene play out protesters have reestablished the encampment on universitys plaza even though they were told to disperse or face consequences. Alexis mcadams life for us. Any sign of this ending . Hey, sandra no sign of this ending there is a Smaller Group in front of nyu today, there were hundreds just hours ago last night protesting into the Early Morning hours until they were cleared out of the way here. I would like to show you that encampment the Gaza Solidarity and kim and we popping up in campuses across the country and the city but they are trying to block our view here with their umbrellas. They also try to block their faces with masks, but they are screaming on their megaphone. Lets look at some video that was just released a short time ago from the nypd. This gives you a look at what the cops are dealing with when they have to move in because these urban campuses are a big issue because it is not just students out here. You can see the nypd going into that Hamilton Hall there. Hundreds arrested, sandra listed us from City College Of New York and Columbia University please tell us nearly half of them were found to have absolutely no affiliation with those schools. We know around 300 people are arrested at those protests and after those arrests students say they are still not backing down, watch. We remind everyone who set things on fire we will not rest, we will not rest, we will not rest until they divest and until the Zionist Entity Falls. Okay so a lot of people who live in this neighborhood since it is 80 urban neighborhood they say they are sick of the chanting and the chaos including aan incoming graduate students we will check in with now tell me, elizabeth why you chose you chose nyu you said you turned down columbia because of what is going down there what about nyu . Im going into the Social Work Program and they have an amazing Clinical Program for what i want to do. I would like to be a therapist. With all of this happening as a jewish student are you worried about your safety are you thinking maybe this was not the best choice . What would you like to see the school do here to make you feel safe when you to campus . I am jewish and i will not back down even if all of this is going on i will go to school and get an education. It is disheartening to see at this point we are drawing parallels between this and nazi germany. They are chanting zionists are not welcome but 95 of jews are zionists so its tough to see. Ill move you this way but you can see on the side now since this is their umbrellas not blocking all of it but you can see around the corner there that is the encampment. Elizabeth, when you see these encampments set up around here, what do you think that sends to the message to these students are they in charge or is a University Like columbia and nyu in charge . We will see based on their response. What you think they should do with these encampment . I think suspension is a solution to this and also for those were not american i think deportation. Thank you for talking to us and that is the latest on the ground. Will continue to see more umbrellas just like this we will keep you posted if they talk to us. Sandra you know what, cb cotton tried earlier and they would not. Alexis thank you for that we appreciated, thank you. John . John and the pride of the umbrellas in the trump trial in new york we saw the former president and to the courthouse after the lunch break. Stormy daniels former attorney is back on the stand for crossexamination. Alina habba up next with her thoughts on next stay tuned. These were all timed by democrat prosecutors they were elected or appointed that could essentially know how long these cases would take and time them to hit right in the middle of Campaign Season of 2024. Id go to americas best why . For a comprehensive, quality eye exam from a doctor . 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Speed to come on mike trump moments ago walking back into court, things are back underway now. Our nate foy is live outside the courthouse with the latest. Nate looks like the issue of the gag order has come up again before the jury gets back in. That is right, john. Trump walked back into the courtroom and didnt say anything but mentioning one of his people but as for the afternoon session what we can look forward to is the continuation of the crossexamination of keith davidson, the labased attorney who represented both Stormy Daniels and Karen Mcdougal as both women sold stories about alleged affairs with former President Trump leading up to the 2016 election, trumps lawyers indicate they have less than an hour left of questioning just before lunch, trumps lawyer Emile Beauvais questioned davidson about the definition of extortion and deals to it suppress stories involving celebrities like lindsay lohan, Charlie Sheen and hulk hogan. Davidson did not connect any of the deals directly to drum. He said told him f it i will do it myself , referring to the Stormy Daniels payment and rather than trump doing it himself davidson testified he thought cohen was going to kill himself if he didnt get the position. They believed he wanted the Chief Of Staff positions and said cohen can you f and believe after what ive done for that guy . They include things about the jury being 85 democrats. In reference to that comment about the jury they say it was more of a general statement regarding the jury pool with new york city being a predominantly liberal city and also he said that cohens facility doesnt need any protection from the gag order because he talks about the case in social media even accepting donations from his followers on tiktok. John and there is an argument that its fundamentally unfair we will see how that goes. Nate, thank you. Sandra joining us now alina habba General Council for save america, welcome back good heavy on the program. The trial resumed a short time ago we saw the former president reenter the courtroom there and we know the exlawyer exlawyer for Stormy Daniels is on the stand. Testimony continues at this hour. What are your thoughts at this point in the trial . I think the defense is doing really great job of crossexamining the attorney for storming as we have heard he is asking him about the definition of extortion. Why is he doing that . Its very clear. There is a very fine line between bribing somebody come extorting them because you know they are medical figures, they are a famous person, and trying to get them to pay off someone. As an attorney i can tell you that gentleman is in trouble. There is no question what is going on is completely fundamentally wrong. As a counsel for anyone this person was not acting as an attorney who is brokering and extortion deal. Thats what we heard today. I look forward to the rest of the crossexamination but lets not forget the other thing happening. The unconstitutional gag order on President Trump. This keeps coming up as a distraction to the American Public because they cannot win a case that its absolutely flawed and lacking factual basis to donald trump. We know that. This was brought by Michael Cohen, we know that we know his credibility is minimal if existent at all. I experienced that myself with my own trial. We are seeing complete and utter destruction of the bedrock constitutional First Amendment and eighth amendment, frankly. It is sad. It is truly sad. John lets bring up for a second keith davidsons testimony particularly on the point of how he consider the payments to Karen Mcdougal and Stormy Daniels be classified. The case revolves around according to alvin bragg financial records being falsified, being called legal payments instead of Something Else or Legal Expenses to cover up the commission of some sort of Election Interference. Keith davidson said he would consider those payments to be called consideration, which is a legal term for something parties exchange in a contract. So alvin braggs hold case would seem to evaporate. Lets talk about something no one is mentioning. Hillary clinton with the russia hoax paid the feca violation for paying her attorneys to hide payments for that. Okay . Is she in jail . No. 150 if it is trump they will go after you. If it is anybody else who paid 8,000 i believe her fine was 8,000, how is that not a paper crime . If we use the standard has to apply to everybody. That is not going to be very pretty for the American People and it wont be pretty f for the leftwing democrats. They come after trump, they are coming up for america. It has nothing to do with him and everything to do with us. There is no Campaign Finance violation. In fact that is what Michael Cohen pled guilty to. The same man that perjured himself in my Attorney General case and admitted to it on the stand. We are clearly in a very much political Law Fairing Environment and as americans both democrat and republican if we dont stop it we are in trouble as a country. Sandra are you any more optimistic than you were last week when we spoke to you about the outcome of this trial for the former president . Listen, like i said and i have said time and time again the president has done nothing wrong. If we are in a fair environment, if we are not in manhattan where they intentionally select a venue which despite our motions to move it is intentionally blue it is a blue city. And the pool is blue it is what it is. That is all intentional. Georgia, washington, d. C. , you cannot get it twisted that this is all by design by the biden administration. 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