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Transcripts For FOXNEWSW America 20240703

The easiest questions that could possibly be asked. Only a guy like michael can answer those questions. They have him tied up in this ridiculous prosecution that is not about dresses. It is all about politics. It is Election Interference and its tying up the president from being out of the campaign trail. This is a sham and that is the only thing this is. Its a joke, a farce, a travesty, we are better than this as americans. The only thing more depressing then this court room is what is happening in there. Its a scam its Election Interference at a level that is never taken place before and if you dont mind im going at it the icebox to sit for a long time. Former President Donald Trump getting a huge show of support by allies in washington as the unprecedented criminal trial continues in lower manhattan. The court is on lunch break at this moment. That was the former president departing just a few moments ago. We just saw him walk out of the courtroom and 1 quart resumes crossexamination will begin. We look forward to that moment indeed hello and welcome everyone im sandra smith in new york john, hello. John known as anything good to say about the courtroom itself i find it interesting, im john roberts a missa america reports. Michael cohen is back in the stand, he has been portraying himself as trumps go to fix or. Sandra during todays testimony he admitted to phony invoices to cover up payments he made to Stormy Daniels to testify he lied about it in order to protect trump. John will be jury see him as a credible witness . We will ask us cohens attorney davis. But First Carry Herb On whos been at the courthouse all morning. What do you make at the courthouse today . The prosecution has taken its time painstakingly and plotting me going through all of Michael Cohens history both of donald trump before and after. One thing that was very clear and they intentionally drew out probably knowing that the defense will hammer him on this this afternoon and thursday on cross is how much he lied. So many statements he put to the media come to the courts, to congress that were just not t true. Yet now he is saying everything im saying is true so that is something that the jury will really have to contend with when closing arguments are made. Just because he has an incredible history of lying. The other thing i will say that is interesting is heat and i was not aware of this and i know it has been publicly reported before but i did not realize he provided false information to Special Counsel bob muellers team and he said because it was Still Holding onto royalty for donald trump. s the reason some of this is hard to believe from cohen when he said he had disloyalty and im sure he did was that donald trump is not forcing them to do any of this. When he made a decision and he did throughout the years to live for him, to bully people, to a do all the things he did to execute assigned tasks trump gave him those were his choices. Now why he made those choices is unclear. Maybe he was striving off the Affirmation Trump gave him which seem to mean the world to him when trump gave him a complement. He also obviously like the access to power and when he became his personal attorney when trump became president he was able to make millions of dollars in outside consulting gigs he would not have otherwise made and that he te testified at today. Sandra we now wait over an hour from now the crossexamination of Michael Cohen will begin. What do you anticipate we will here come from that . I think the defense is really going to just go through all these inconsistent statements that he has made over the years. If you have lied about something that specifically here being donald trump had nothing to do the Stormy Daniels payment you lie about that for years and years and suddenly say its not true thats obviously a real point of vulnerability. The other thing the judge raised and was very clear about this during argument was that Michael Cohens guilty pleas throughout the years cannot be used as evidence of Donald Trumps guilt and it cannot be determinative of a guilty or not guilty verdict when it comes to trump. Now the reason that matters is because dont forget Michael Cohen pled guilty to not just tax evasion but unlawfully contribute into a campaign. It to lying, to all of these things. And the judge was very clear saying look, i am introducing these things into evidence. I am allowing this so you can consider his credibility but it cannot go to whether or not trump was guilty of the same crimes. All right. Carry urban for us. Sandra thank you. Michael cohens attorney and Special Counsel for president clinton. Lainey, great to have you. Here we are an hour away from this crossexamination its going to be a big moment in this trial. Day 17 of it by the way. But who is counting . What happens next . Eyes side because of the members of the night before the testimony on February 22nd 2019 live under oath on International Television with none other than jim jordan and Mark Meadows Future Chief Of Staff to of course President Trump and that was a tough experience because he was being provoked for that without a judge there to try to be the arbitrator of fairness. And he was attacked, there was a sign on the wall that said liar Liar Pants On Fire so he has been through this pretty badly once and then the second time crossexamined by Trump Attorneys in a courtroom with the new York Attorney generals financial fraud trial. It was pretty vicious and pretty tough and he held his own but i hope today he will be, as we discussed two nights ago, quiet, direct, owned his lying, own his sins, and then answer the question. John and if that is the case ive had some Phone Conversations with Michael Cohen were you challenge him a little bit and he turns vicious from time to time. I want to play what speaker johnson said about your client and the 10 00 hour this morning. This is a man who is clearly on a mission for personal revenge. And who is widely known as a witness who has trouble with the truth. He is someone who has a history of perjury and is well known for it. No one should believe a word he says today. He lied to congress, he lied to the irs, he lied to federal election officials, even cohens own lawyer testify to a grand jury that he is not reliable. John what about that . I rode it all down he lied to congress, lied to the media, including me, he lied to muller, inc. Thing the fcc, lied to the irs and a bank to get that Home Equity Line of credit and a convicted felon that spent time in prison for all of those lies. Why should the jury believe a word . First of all the jury has to make their own mind up with the truth. Elijah cummings and a committee that he shared on live testimony. Pronounced that at the end of the hearings in a very moving way but in his speaker to talk about wyoming when he is at the supporter of one of the biggest lies of all which is not accepting the defeat by donald trump. And of course there was no lawyer testifying in front of a grand jury. This individual that the speaker just referred to was not mr. Cohens lawyer. Mr. Mcgarvey having just about Marjorie Taylor greene looks like he is stretching the truth to be partisan the very time partisanship should not be addressed so right now we should not have a partisan cheap attack or that individual will not be speaker without those supporting him. And mccarthy would still book two are very similar but i meant johnson. Sandra owes fascinating today looking back on some of the things with Michael Cohen in the past specifically his testimony before congress in 2019. And how the entire point of the prep was to teach him to keep his cool and how he struggled to do that. I wonder what insights you can give us on how he prepped for the moment that is about to happen at 15 00 p. M. Today. Yes lets all identify it is not just Michael Cohen that has a hard time keeping his cool when he is being personally attacked. And under these circumstances it is not going to be easy for the rest of the crossexamination. But he raised himself up and he stood up to the challenge and testified before congress and the ag trial. Where is mr. Kirk trump . He promised he would testify. Did johnson remind donald trump he promised he would testify on this channel of all with some Trump Supporters watching . Do you take donald trump at his word . He gave his word that he would testify so maybe the is not the day. Mr. Trump i welcome you are doing what Michael Cohen is willing to do. Stand up and tell the truth. John let me get to the one of the points of the trial itself. That is whether or not trump was acting on advice of counsel when he listened to Michael Cohen so cohen pulled up the Retainer Payments with alan weiss and berg at Rikers Island and probably will not testify in this. Of but Michael Cohen cooked up the Payment Schedule is trump acting on advice of counsel . Was it cohen who actually did something illegal and how does that illegality go to trump . Its extremely difficult and very rarely applied because you have to be an innocent and rely on counsel. For donald trump to prove to anyone he is innocent relying on counsel would be rich as i just said. About senator johnson. Yes johnson i keep thinking mccarthy. But the piece of paper i first saw over a year ago when we were first being presented with all the evidence preparing for this, it is very, very to mr. Trump. Its in weisel bergs handwriting so you know he is in testifying it is incriminating. I promise you they will look at that piece of paper. On that piece of paper all of the amounts that add up to 430,000 including the 132 Stormy Daniels. And then divided by 12. The president of the United States in the oval office we have had testimony undisputed that checks out for my 35,000 a month from his personal checking account. Can you imagine if a democratic president what with the speaker be saying today if it was a democratic president who wrote out checks from his personal account for hush money . So right now we have very devastating evidence from weisselberg. John are you sure he is not going to testify . I was told when it comes to mr. Weisselberg. Sandra if we have something from turley that will begin an hour from now about the crossexamination he asked the question many of us are asking right how badly this crossexamination would be for Michael Cohen after lying to Congress Come up courts, banks, and everyone else he writes it will be bad is a reckoning of biblical proportions. Can we get your last thought . I know he does tend to use matter for us like biblical proportions. In the ag trial it may have been nonbiblical but it was pretty severe by the Trump Attorney and crossexamination. What did the sitting judge right after that crossexamination that he found Michael Cohen credible. So whatever they sent him today if he answers calmly and directly the jury will get an impression that i believe judge and ron got. John thats what we will be look forward to. Thank you. Spewing good to see you, thank you. 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John testimony in the new york versus trump trial will continue soon as the defense get sent to take its term questioning Michael Cohen. Cohen testifying earlier today about maine for President Trump of the white house and detailing how he was reimbursed after making the Stormy Daniels payment. Laura ingraham is host of the Ingraham Angle also whitecollar Criminal Defense Attorney and clarence thomas, she has been inside the courtroom for todays proceedings and joins us now outside the courthouse. I dont know if you got a chance to hear from davis but he said if Michael Cohen could retain his composure under crossexamination he will be a credible witness for the jury. What do you think . What did you expect davis was going to say . Come on, guys paired what i tend to end this is what i did when i was a Practicing Attorney just a few blocks away as a law clerk at the federal courthouse, you have to look at the statute, what is the statue charge . I know it is a novel thought to look at the crime at its 17152 in the new york that the Bootstrap Crime they are trying to knock off to the felony from the falsification of Business Records. That requires intent. The intent requires the Prosecution Show donald trump not only intended to falsify these Ledger Entries which are administrative Ledger Entries for how these were made they intend to do that with the intent to commit a state Campaign Violence but you didnt see i saw it in course judge juan merchan that sustains the objections Michael Cohen being asked to do think he committed a Campaign Finance violation or paraphrasing of that effect and the judge sustained that. Why did he sustain that . Because that is the whole point of this case, right . Under this theory of Novel Application of this particular law donald trump needed to intend to commit a state Campaign Finance violation of the federal election which is, what . The fec, federal Election Commission which we all know by now declined to prosecute this case though while there is a lot of interesting nuances of home Michael Cohen Felt Slighted and how we felt he was getting Subliminal Messaging through these tweets. The bottom line which they did not address the intent to falsify an end tent to make entry with the intent of this crime and concealing it has not been demonstrated, this has not been shown. Sorry, what lanny, nice try. Sandra laura, great stuff and what kind of color can you give us from inside the courtroom . Nobody seems as john noted at the top of the hour no one has anything nice to say about what it feels like in there. Well, its a little uncomfortable migrate Assistant Haley gave me a thing to sit on so that helped to put i am watching the jury. Its interesting to watch the jurors taking this very seriously which is what you would hope from a jury of your peers. But to look at Body Language peoples facial expressions its hard to take

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