My own personal funds from the home equity line of credit. To avoid any money being traced back to him that can negatively impact his campaign. He kept on saying over and over again 1020 times i swear to god, bob, i dont have anything to donald trump. Trump is a con man. He asked me to pay off an Adult Film Star with whom he had an affair. He said specifically and i crossexamine him on this this was my idea. I was extremely proud to be personal attorney to the president of the United States. I did not want to go to the white house. When he was elected he took the whole trumps inner circle to washington with one exception. Michael cohen. They left him back in new york. Michael cohen was very unhappy about that. This will deftly get reversed but after the election probably if he gets convicted and thats what they want. Sandra former president Donald Trumps defense team getting other crack today question the prosecutions star witness and former trump lawyer Michael Cohen. It comes after cohens former advisor costello offered a blistering statement accusing him of lying in court. That is where we find ourselves at the top of the 1 00 hour and the east coast to hello and welcome everyone im sandra smith in new york, john gray to. John we are missing on washington, comeback, im john roberts in d. C. This is America Reports paired proceedings in a lunch break for the next hour and 15 minutes Robert Castillo work for the Southern District of new york and advise coming back in 2018 after being hit with federal charges. Costello testified on capitol hill yesterday and sworn he had nothing on trunk and had that he took care of the Stormy Daniels payment himself. Sandra will the defense use this to their advantage in that courtroom . We have a team of legal and political experts with us throughout the next two hours. John for us to go to Senior CorrespondentEric Shawn Life stomach live outside the Supreme Court is going to the lunch break. Eric . So far has not mentioned Robert Castillo but in the crossexamination has been trying to shred Michael Cohens credibility and has been doing that by using cohens own words against him. The former president s lawyer and fixer he was confronted in his crossexamination by the litany of lies he has admittedly told through the years. Being told he has not only lied under oath before and not under oath repeatedly so that the jury should not believe anything he says about donald trump now. Cohen has admitted he lied to a federal judge, lied to congress, lied to his bank when he opened a shell company, lied when he used his Home Equity Loan to pay Stormy Daniels, lied in the Robert Mueller russia investigation, and lied about seeking a pardon for President Trump. He also lied to the jury on monday when he put the blame for Stormy Daniels deal squarely on the former president , which seems to contradict exactly what you just heard from lawyer Robert Costello who says cohen told him six years ago that trump had nothing to do with the Stormy Daniels payments. Did not even know about them and that cohen arranged for the whole thing secretly so that milani would would not find out. So far in Court Todd Blanche today has not brought that up in the crossexamination. He is been because of turning on trying to show cohen has been in his view of motivated and exact ohmic resentment of trump vengeful because he was not offered a top position at the white house when his boss moved from trump tower to the oval office. Cohen admitted he was disappointed when he learned that previous had the job of Chief Of Staff but he insisted he wanted to be at the new president s side solely as his personal attorney. Perhaps trying to show the journey to mike geary the fact that cohen may have had a personal decision in this to try and get back at trump for not offering him a top job in bringing him along with anyone else to the white house. Got so bad at one point that cohen also acknowledged he had trouble getting tickets to President Trumps inauguration. So that his own daughter texted him that trump and his people, she said, are walking all over you. John, back to you. John im sure he did not like that a whole lot. Eric shawn for us outside the Supreme Court. Eric, thank you. Tender . Sandra lets bring in jim trusty, gray tabby on the program they are on break we will see this trial resume probably at the top of the hour 2 15 p. M. Eastern time. I want to play out the sound from the former president this morning as he was entering the courtroom calling this bidens trial, listen. At least we are getting the word out but it is very unfair i would like to be in these various states where i should be campaigning like anybody else. This all comes out of the white house and the Department Of Justice. This is all them. In fact a lead person from the doj is running the trial. So bidens office is running this trial. This trial is a scam and it shouldnt happen. Sandra those of former president s take what is your take . A couple of things on the plane the president made there is a core fact thats a little problem here which is the doj, the number guy had been back and forth between Letitia James office alvin Braggs Office and the Department Just as he decided to go back to alvin Braggs Office as the right hand of alvin bragg in three weeks late of indictment comes up. So that is not necessarily a smoking gun but that is certainly a red flag where there is an issue there about it all on main justice. As for the trial, i dont know if you know the fear of colonization because the government never had to give it at this point. And all sorts of extraneous information coming out all those negative factors coming together is still going well for the defense. Gravitated into something that i said to be the Defense Strategy which is make it about cohens credibility which is a gift that keeps giving. John and cohens credibility todd blanche has been showing his hostile to the president and able to lie about anything it took in furtherance of his own career and how did he think hes done that front . Well be great from the inside watching it minutebyminute thats where you really get a feel for how does landing but i would say this. It seems to be very structured across he seems to be spending a lot of time on bias which is a huge part of the story. Is moving into the area of undeniable lies convictions for perjury, lying to special counsel i think you may move toward the end for the illusions of grandeur. wanting to be the Attorney General, god help us. At one Point Of View or know with movies like tom cruise of going after Jack Nicholson and you cant handle the truth and perry mason to put it back where there is devastating cross where the witness folds and says you are right i murdered soandso. In real life, that is a mistake. It doesnt happen at least here you what you have to do is set up a closing argument. I think what i am seeing so far is todd is being disciplined enough to ask tight questions where cohen cant make speeches. Thats the measure of success. Get this done my concessions, forced him to look like a weasel he is but dont give him the opportunity to make a speech at your expense. Sandra when we are watching from the outside we want that instant gratification, where they are going right now. Like when we watch the tv version of this. Bob cust albeit interview from this morning we played a little bit of it, jim, this is more from him and that interview. Michael cohen monetizing himself, listen. This guy is saying i will lie, cheat, steal, do whatever i have to do, i am not going to jail. He did go to jail. Who do you think he blames for that . And why do you think he names his most recent book rebound . I mean, quite frankly, he is using this to monetize himself. Because this is the only way this guy can make money right now. Selling books and teachers and trinkets and being the ultimate antitrumper. I wanted your reaction to that. I got to meet and talk to costello yesterday we were testifying on the hill and i have to tell you, i went from the camp of do not call anybody in the defense case, dont give the government anything that helps them even unintentionally, make it about cohen now i am in my statement and say put costello on because he is a great rebuttal. You are not really planning on a true defense, youre putting on a rebuttal to the ceremony but think about it its a guy who knows cohen well, they would say that the guy wont know the truth unless it hits him in the eyes and he is rebutting some of the accounts and stories that cohen gave this jury so the classical bottle and the Character Testimony about what a dishonest guy he is. John in terms of a rebuttal if they were to put them on the stand is a good Possibility Costello may say. You did this on your own . On my own. Speaker did donald trump have anything to do with a Question Mark no perry did get the money from gone from . Is no. From any of its organizations . No. From anyone connected to donald trump . No peers where did you get the money . I took out a heloc loan against my properties. Is about to do that . He said i didnt want anybody to know where i got this money. I didnt want wanted to know, i didnt want my own wife to know. What is interesting is what costello was saying there, jim, is basically the same thing that cohen told everybody who was willing to listen back in 2018. But he is cohens former attorney and testifying in congress. If he were to bring that story into the new york city courtroom, it seems to me as though there will be a very big case of he said he said for the jury to weigh. And the government has the burden of proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt they are hedging and hedging their bet on the sky. I have to say this guy has been a lawyer 51 years, costello he is an impossible to deflate new york lawyer, he would be devastating on the witness stand. There is no crossexamination that will shake that guy for a minute. And its rings true his stories about cohen will ring true. If im on that team i am saying look, Everyone Else is back we have one witness coming and then we go read in john do you think . 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Number three, he was unhappy about not being included in Donald Trumps inner circle in the white house when donald trump went to washington and was not happy he was not invited or it was difficult for him to go to inauguration. The exchange was pretty testy just before we broke for lunch lets see what it is like when we go back inside. Sandra this will continue. If i could just roll sound on more of this interview from bob costello earlier today on whether or not he will testify. I wanted to get your reaction to this. I have not been subpoenaed. Whether i will be called to testify it has not been decided yet. It probably depends a lot on what will happen a day in court and what would happen on redirect by the district attorneys office. I mean if i were in todd blanches shoes, thats the analysis i would make. Sandra i suppose we dont know what we dont know and there could be some surprises there. Kerri . Yeah, he is right. If i were todd blanche i would be thinking the same way. After we see how today goes and it did not end with just a cross, the Prosecutions Office will have a chance to do redirect and then the defense team could do recross, we redirect, reread cross and this could go on sometime. It remains to be seen and the testimony i believe was remarkably compelling given cohen told him donald trump that cohen im sorry, donald trump knew nothing about the Stormy Daniels payment and then that cohen had done that completely on his own and he also told Bob Costellos that he would do anything to stay out of jail. As we know once he was sentenced thats when things changed and shifted for cohen as far as what he publicly said about trump and went from an extreme version of love to a an extreme version of hate. One has to wonder why. John suggestion there from i guess costello is that cohen said he would do anything to stay out of jail including dropping a dime on trump buddy didnt have the dime to drop so he never did it. Kerri and the time he spent in the Overflow Room contemplating this entire trial youve come up with some ideas on how the Closing Arguments might go, what do you think . Yes, so if i were presenting Closing Arguments out hit the three following points. The first is establishing, again, what this case is about . Falsifying Business Records and there is still no evidence that donald trump knew exactly how these payments to Michael Cohen reclassified by an accounts payable person in trump tower and an internal ledger. Number two, that the classification of Legal Expenses in that book is accurate. Michael cohen continue to operate and hold himself out as Donald Trumps personal attorney throughout the entire time he was getting paid. Doesnt it stand to reason that he could be receiving reimbursement for previous expenses while also be receiving a retainer because he was still his personal attorney . And three, this is where i think this goes to the heart of the jury, and you want to appeal to their motion, that if the jury does not agree with those two points what they will have to do is make a life altering decision for the former president of the United States based on the testimony of a man who has lied for years, has a history of blame shifting, has made millions of dollars off denigrating donald trump, and was disgruntled about leaving the white house. Is that really what they want to do here, especially because the only thing that Michael Cohen has testified up