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in the short term, at least. so i think again it is a factor in weakening the effect, but the sanctions still remain very powerful. but creon, do you have sympathy for countries taking this stance? i mean, there's a world price crisis, and they have a responsibility to their people to get supplies at the lowest price. yes, i do. and in a way, and this is true also in relation to some of the advanced countries who have to deal and are dealing with the threat of cut off gas supplies, you have to do in the very short—term what you can do, but that shouldn't become an obstacle to finding a permanent solution over the longer term. creon butler, how i've appreciated your insights and thoughts. thank you forjoining me and i will talk to you soon. so, as we have been discussing, one of the biggest country so, as we have been discussing, one of the biggest countries not following those us led sanctions and buying up lots of russian oil, is india. to find out why, i have been speaking to the former vice