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because when a paper diverges so much from its readership, then you get something which we've had in the last three days, which is the front page of the mail on sunday completely different from the, you know, "actually, boris is the best man to lead britain", and then today, which is the "greased piglet" — "we're trying to hedge our bets." and i should say that number 10 and mrjohnson have always denied lying, though they do accept that on several matters, they have said things which weren't true and then have corrected that. we're going to talk about the relationship between the number 10 press operation and the press in a moment with james ball, who's going to join us. but, joeyjones, i'd like to bring you in, because i've been talking about the evolution of the position of certain papers on notjust mrjohnson, but on politics more generally. but do you think there can actually be moments, high impact moments, say — i'm thinking back to michael gove's turning on borisjohnson back in 2016 — that can instantly shift where publications and people sit on a person or an issue? yes.

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