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would have been better insulated against _ would have been better insulated against the crisis. it is very positive _ against the crisis. it is very positive that energy is now front and centre of the national debate and centre of the national debate and the _ and centre of the national debate and the question is how we can transform _ and the question is how we can transform a 150—year—old system in the next _ transform a 150—year—old system in the next decade and a half to bring cheaper— the next decade and a half to bring cheaper energy for households, for businesses — cheaper energy for households, for businesses critically needing it, and of— businesses critically needing it, and of course clean energy and finally — and of course clean energy and finally national security. all three of ou, finally national security. all three of you. thank— finally national security. all three of you, thank you _ finally national security. all three of you, thank you very _ finally national security. all three of you, thank you very much - finally national security. all three i of you, thank you very much indeed for now. let's get on with the programme. as pippa was saying, there have been bad tory tempers this week, and another interest rate rise. and look, the prime minister even watched his team, southampton, get relegated from the premiership at st mary's yesterday, when they lost to fulham. so maybe a tricky few days for the prime minister. grant shapps, the energy secretary, is on the pitch for the government this morning. welcome. there have been quite a lot of jitters for the conservatives in the last few days, and repeatedly ministers sit in that chair and say