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but i don't know if we actually thought we could achieve it. tell me about — i mean, graham taylor, obviously, he's a man that i played for, made me england captain — i'll be eternally grateful for him for that. how did you get him in the first place? how did that happen? um, well, there was talk of us getting bobby moore and i think i spoke to bobby, but the board of directors weren't keen on it. and muir stratford, who was one of our directors, he said, "there's a chap at lincoln city called graham "taylor and i think he's the best young manager" — and he was 28, i think, graham. you're getting somebody to close him down and then your other fellow that's coming is coming in there to support and make the angle. were you not put off by the fact that he was so young? not really. but i mean, he — i phoned him up and he was being chased by west brom and he was the name on people's lips and i said, "i'm eltonjohn. laughter. "i'm chairman of watford. "i would like you to be our manager". that's all it needs, surely! someone calls you and says, "i'm eltonjohn". basically! laughter