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breaking news that i want to bring you that happen for the defence secretary was giving his speech. the ukrainian air force service that it has shut down a russian a 50 and 22 plane in the as of sea area, ukrainian air force saying it has shut down a russian 850 playing and correspond correspondent from bbc monitoring pointing at us this is significant because the 850 provides critical functions such as detecting air defence systems and guided missiles and coordinate targets for russian fighterjets. let me bring in our security correspondent frank gardner who was to the defence secretary but also knows a lot about jets and in particular that russian 850. can you give us an idea of what this means in terms of the war in ukraine with russia? it is