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sergeant clint and sergeant ty, the two living service members were honored for the same battle. john, to your larger point, i think there's a lot of tendency in the media and in the public, i think, to blame the media for not covering the wars more and for not covering the troops and their families more. and that's -- that's perfectly valid criticism. and i agree with it, and i'm trying to -- >> well, let's get into that a little deeper, because here we are towards the end of america's longest war. and there is a sense that this has just been a hum and a buzz in the background. it's not been brought into our living rooms every night. how much of that lack of sustained attention, of focus, of honor is the public's responsibility? and how much of it really is the media's responsibility for not keeping it front -- front and center during the entire time of this intermnible conflict.