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shouldn't be the ones pushing it. we should be back trying to help everyday americans find a better way, a better alternative and that's what we're trying to do. >> does the apparent catarrhaphy of obama care in any way justify the government shutdown? because at the time the republicans were getting heat for forcing that but now some are saying well, they had a point, didn't they? >> well, i said months ago, so long before this -- so i'm not hindsight 20/20 but i believe the federal government is too big, takes on too many responsibilities for individual's lives but what i thought what was necessarily, what is left, the few things necessary are things that should work and i had a difficult time justifying making it work meant shutting it down. i thought drawing attention to obama care and the failures was important, but as we've seen, you don't need a republican to point that out. everyday people are finding out sadly everyday not only is the website not working but the