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this is a time for backbone and steel because, frankly, only the brave get out of this in one piece. >> and if there's a lot of drinking, then all of a sudden you're talking about everything. nothing's off the table. >> exactly. >> is it psychological warfare, wendy? >> in some ways it can be, one of the things richard is talking about, you're talking about from the other side of the pond, where there's a lot of repression and here in america we talk about too many things and we need to learn to restrain ourselves a little bit. >> i don't know if you've met richard quest yet. he doesn't fit your stereotypical across the pond. >> i need a few sessions on your sofa to get rid of my repression. >> but i do think, listen, we get together, sanjay, for one reason. remember, our ancient people, our biology remembers this, we get together during the darkest days of winter, because our ancient people, the sun went away, the food was gone, we huddled together around fires and shared the last little bits