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conversation that you and your wife had your sons early on? >> yes, that is what happened, i had to tell them early on how i got hiv. if they're going to have sex later on in life, have safe sex and talk about it with your partner. you know, it is important that we had that dialogue and that we still have that dialogue today. just like i want my son e. j. to talk to me about everything, my son andre to talk to me, my daughter, elisa, and that is what i talk about. and i go to church, i'm a christian, but the reality is, my son is gay. that is the reality. and i tell pastors that, i tell other pastors that. i tell black christians who came out with me. but i say hey, i love my son, nothing is going to change that. i don't care if you don't agree and you don't want to deal with me or don't like me, that is on you. but i said tell me when it hits