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start digging or did you have permission to come in? >> we have permission. >> was that difficult? >> very difficult. we negotiated with the city for two years. part of the difficulty is they didn't know what hook to hang our request on. they're used to developers saying, i want to build a strip mall, i want to build a parking structure. they're not used to people saying, we want land to build a model organic farm. >> malik started the farm with a goal of providing greater access to fresh produce in areas that grocery stores have completely abandoned. that's basically all of detroit's inner city. >> other than whole foods, who just came in -- >> yes. >> not a single national food