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thinking at all, and you are perpetuating a construct that is devaluing the black people at all, and we are getting shot in the street, because people are not feeling that we are value and to jokes and to perpetuate that ideal is upsetting and irresponsible. >> is that a lot of pressure and why can't comedians of color have the same freedom to practice the craft and they have an extra burden? it is their craft. sfwr it is not about practicing the craft, but it is the intention. is the intention to move the conversation forward if you are exploring something as controversial as race. but if the intention is to get a joke, who is paying for that? and so african-americans have paid enough not to have someone come here to make fun of us. >> and natalie, you are a strong defender of him, and so isn't that what a comedian is and at some point it is about being