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like now, do we know? the fact that they're both going to be running. >> i'm told that it's not necessarily strained, but they're certainly not on the phone all the time, as you can imagine. they happen to sit next to each other randomly on the plane, going to nashville for the nra convention within the past week, and they certainly talked. anna navarro who is friends with both of them said rubio was joking about the speech he was working on, while he was sitting next to bush. but look, i mean, it certainly is not an easy thing when you have somebody like jeb bush who really -- just looking at the public statements, never mind what went on privately, was his intellectual mentor, intellectual mentor when it came to pushing the ideas that rubio has been pushing for the last 15 years or so. >> dana, i appreciate the reporting, thank you, tonight.