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wagon, but, you know i'm concerned, because if he has a spinal injury and he was talking before he got in the van, then what transpired between the time that he was in the van and that he got medical attention? i mean that's the question that needs to be answered and i also want to say that i am encouraged that the police commissioner said that he's going to have an independent agency look at this whole thing, because that would give the public a sense of, you know the public would be a little more -- you know concerned if it's done by outside entity rather than the police investigating the police. >> councilman as i don't need to tell you but maybe viewers aren't familiar the mayor, stephanie rawlings-blake once was in the city council. do you think that she or the police commissioner or the deputy commissioner have a better idea of what actually