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it be by terrorist groups or militant groups. i wonder if you and the family feels satisfied with the efforts that the u.s. made to win his release before the horrible events that we learned about today. >> well i don't know in particular what they did, but for me i revisited the question in 2014 last year when the united states exchanged some of its prisoners at guantanamo for sergeant bowe bergdahl. now, i'm not saying they shouldn't have done that but the question that entered my mind then was if they could do that for him, why couldn't they do something comparable for a man who dedicated his life to service, who was 73 years old, who was not in good health and so on. i guess i don't -- if you ask me do i think the united states did as much as it could to free him, i would say no.