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shooting in eric's life. at a time when we are still mourning the death of a loved one he shot down in the street mr. bates is relaxing and enjoying his wealth and privilege. what is your reaction to that statement? >> mr. bates' travel plans involve his grandchildren and daughters. they made plans back in september to go on this trip and he was really torn honestly about whether he should go. but he felt that he's not going to make a difference in what happened to mr. harris and he feels terrible about it but he can still meet the commitments to his family and his loved buns and -- ones and he didn't want to let them down. it is not annin salt to mr. harris that mr. bates is a family man and wants to stay connected to his family. >> you really don't think that if a man shot a loved one of yours and went on vacation into theba ham as you that you --ba ham as you won't feel that is a insult. >> they are disconnected. do you want him to sleep on a bed of nails. >> but in a nice home might not