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gratitude the world as it is. and then as gandolf says, so do all people who are in such times. >> you told an interviewer that you have learned to, in your words, love the thing that i most wish had not happened. um -- you went on to say what punishments of god are not gifts. do you really believe that? >> yes. it's a gift to exist. it's a gift to exist. and with existence comes suffering. there's no escaping that. i guess i'm either a catholic or a buddhist when i say those things because i've heard those from both traditions. but i didn't learn it, that i was grateful for the thing i