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pfizer and moderna by the end of february. well, then you should be ready for a booster by the end of october. just going by the clock. this seems to be what the data is telling us to do. now, anderson, there is nothing magic about eight. it's a little bit of a goldy locks thing here but we don't want to be too late. we don't want to be too early. this looks like about the right place to aim the effort, in order to try to save lives. >> dr. faus, an emergency medicine doctor in women's hospital, who like a lot of physicians had been on the front lines obviously of the pandemic. he said based on what he heard from the administration today, he wouldn't get a booster right now. he said it's not clear there is actually need for the general public to get a third shot and he says not enough is it known about side effects of a booster. so what do you say to someone like dr. faus who we should say a is a strong supporter of the covid vaccines in general. his hesitancy seems only to be about the booster. >> i totally understand that because this is sort of a clinical-judgment situation. but from my perspective, having looked at all of the data, i