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donald trump tried to call a white house support staff member, that's a career employee in the white house not a political appointee that donald trump would have hand-picked to be around him, it would be a staff member in the white house. that call did not go through, so what trump wanted to say wasn't heard, but it was concerning enough to the person that they passed it to their lawyer and their lawyer told the committee. and part of the other reason why this is so concerning is the circumstances in which this call was placed. this was placed to someone who was not regularly in touch with donald trump so wouldn't be expecting regular calls from the ex-president, and this call came after the cassidy hutchinson testimony that was so damaging to a person that could have corroborated what cassidy hutchinson was saying under oath. so the committee is looking for patterns and clearly this was something concerning enough that they wanted alert the justice department to it. >> ellie, is telling the justice department, hey, we're putting this in your hands, is this about getting trump to stop