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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

down and could do the opposite of what fani willis wants, which is to try all the defense together in as quickly as possible. >> okay, i'll get one more for you, katie. republicans on the house judiciary committee opened this new inquiry into a meeting that took place between a member of jack smith's team and the white house counsel's staff. we know that parts of the media are making a lot of noise about this. help us understand what actually happened? what do we need to know? >> what we know from some of the reporting is that indeed jay -- the national security division of the justice department's been working on the documents case. he did go to the white house to interview a career employee about conduct that happened during the trump administration. that would be something that you would see unofficial from the white house greeting that prosecutor, greeting people from the justice department, letting them into building, and bringing them to the interview room.

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

down and could do the opposite of what fani willis wants, which is to try all the defense together in as quickly as possible. >> okay, i'll get one more for you, katie. republicans on the house judiciary committee opened this new inquiry into a meeting that took place between a member of jack smith's team and the white house counsel's staff. we know that parts of the media are making a lot of noise about this. help us understand what actually happened? what do we need to know? >> what we know from some of the reporting is that indeed jay -- the national security division of the justice department's been working on the documents case. he did go to the white house to interview a career employee about conduct that happened during the trump administration. that would be something that you would see unofficial from the white house greeting that prosecutor, greeting people from the justice department, letting them into building, and bringing them to the interview room. that wouldn't be unusual. but to your point, this is

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FOX News Sunday

willfulness. shannon: is joseph zigler notice was a blur x giving his tight of the story to me friday on special report. he is one of the irs agents alleging irregularities in the investigation into hundred bidens taxes present outward legal panel, george washington university law professor jonathan turley and thomas depree deputy assistant attorney general. so glad as i said during the commercial i could spend an hour with you guy there so much legal news out there. let's start here with what mr. zigler told me there. tom, i want to ask you there's a point at which he had a conversation with not only the investigating agent site but also the attorneys and the prosecutors that were involved. he thought there was some understanding of multiple felony and misdemeanor charges they were going to move forward on. and then the whole thing fell apart in the plea deal. what do you make of this? >> yes, shannon, the testimony wasn't mesmerizing. it was a riveting and really a bombshell frankly by the fact you have a career employee who we does clearly not a republican

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FOX News Sunday

willfulness. shannon: is joseph zigler notice was a blur x giving his tight of the story to me friday on special report. he is one of the irs agents alleging irregularities in the investigation into hundred bidens taxes present outward legal panel, george washington university law professor jonathan turley and thomas depree deputy assistant attorney general. so glad as i said during the commercial i could spend an hour with you guy there so much legal news out there. let's start here with what mr. zigler told me there. tom, i want to ask you there's a point at which he had a conversation with not only the investigating agent site but also the attorneys and the prosecutors that were involved. he thought there was some understanding of multiple felony and misdemeanor charges they were going to move forward on. and then the whole thing fell apart in the plea deal. what do you make of this? >> yes, shannon, the testimony wasn't mesmerizing. it was a riveting and really a bombshell frankly by the fact you have a career employee who we does clearly not a republican

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Chris Jansing Reports

authority well before a crucial meeting where the whistleblower says -- quotes david weiss saying i'm not the final decision maker here. i don't have authority. weiss is saying he did have authority. of course all tax cases at the doj have the input of the tax division which at the moment is run by a career employee at the department of justice. the bottom line here is that the justice department's position is that there was no politics, nothing improper involved here. the whistleblower from the irs says different. he argues that the case was treated with kid gloves, treated differently, but here david weiss. the u.s. attorney who brought the case is saying he had full authority to bring whatever charges he wanted to bring. >> ken dilanian, thank you. aretha franklin's sons battle it out over the late music legends estate in court. franklin's former entertainment lawyer of 28 years joins me next. y unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data.

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CNN This Morning

commander-in-chief. what's your response to secretary pompeo? >> well, what he knows in fact or should know is my book went through a four-month-long pre publication review process precisely to make sure there was no classified information in the book. it was arduous at times i can tell you. the national security council senior director responsible for that review cleared the book, and inside the white house, because donald trump didn't want the book published before the election, he fired the senior director, a career employee of the national archives from her job and tried to get another review going. an interesting point here, and this is critical, before the justice department was ordered to bring the suit to stop publication of my book, they interviewed the senior director ellen knight for 18 hours over five days in the white house. they must have forgotten the thumb screws and the rubber

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America Reports

assistance. is that enough? >> it's not. cities are not equipped for that, the border is not equipped, dhs facilities are not equipped. what they needed to do is enforce the policies that existed before. that bill should have had conditions for that money. yeah, ok, let's give them the relief, give those communities that were not allowed to plan for this nonsense, help them with some resources. put policies in place that help us control the border. let's give the tools that the men and women of dhs need to control that border. that's what needs to happen. this is what we get with the president who cares nothing about the southwest border. put in charge the vice president not even visited the southern border. >> rich: you worked on the last two democratic administration's as well. what's the big difference between the obama administration and the biden administration on this issue? >> that's an interesting question. i was a career employee for most of my career except for the last nine months under the trump administration. obama did not believe in enforcing the border either. they just hid it better. this administration has openly

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New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar

donald trump tried to call a white house support staff member, that's a career employee in the white house not a political appointee that donald trump would have hand-picked to be around him, it would be a staff member in the white house. that call did not go through, so what trump wanted to say wasn't heard, but it was concerning enough to the person that they passed it to their lawyer and their lawyer told the committee. and part of the other reason why this is so concerning is the circumstances in which this call was placed. this was placed to someone who was not regularly in touch with donald trump so wouldn't be expecting regular calls from the ex-president, and this call came after the cassidy hutchinson testimony that was so damaging to a person that could have corroborated what cassidy hutchinson was saying under oath. so the committee is looking for patterns and clearly this was something concerning enough that they wanted alert the justice department to it. >> ellie, is telling the justice department, hey, we're putting this in your hands, is this about getting trump to stop

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New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar

office. >> ron, you wrote during the pandemic one of my favorite books "rock me on the water" about 1974. you had a lot of information about the eagles who were quite big that year. after 1974 hotel california became their biggest hit. >> their masterpiece. >> there's this whole thing where some manuscript has allegedly been stolen. what's going to be revealed about the deep dark secrets of "hotel california"? >> don henley is not someone to suffer fools gladly or shy away from litigation. i'm shocked that it has gone on this long because he can be a pretty confrontational guy when he thinks he's being wronged as david geffen will tell you. what's really interesting is when the eagles first started the great robert hillburn wrote in his review of their first album the question was whether they could write. i mean, many of that i ever original songs, their best songs early were written by other people like jackson brown. by the time you got to "hotel

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New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar

brianna. the house committee continues to make clear they're taking this seriously, it's not representative luria who has been saying this since the information came out on tuesday, but the information we know now based on robls from ryan nobles, dana bash, zach cohen is that donald trump tried to call a white house support staff member. so that would be a career employee, not a political appointee, not somebody who is at the very upper echelon of the trump white house, someone who would be a support member working in or around the white house. that call did not go through to the person, but it was concerning enough that the person passed it to their lawyer and then their lawyer told the committee about it. some of the reasons why this is so concerning and so serious for the committee at this time is that this was not someone who was regularly in touch with donald trump, so it wasn't someone who would be likely to get outreach from him or knew

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