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assistance. is that enough? >> it's not. cities are not equipped for that, the border is not equipped, dhs facilities are not equipped. what they needed to do is enforce the policies that existed before. that bill should have had conditions for that money. yeah, ok, let's give them the relief, give those communities that were not allowed to plan for this nonsense, help them with some resources. put policies in place that help us control the border. let's give the tools that the men and women of dhs need to control that border. that's what needs to happen. this is what we get with the president who cares nothing about the southwest border. put in charge the vice president not even visited the southern border. >> rich: you worked on the last two democratic administration's as well. what's the big difference between the obama administration and the biden administration on this issue? >> that's an interesting question. i was a career employee for most of my career except for the last nine months under the trump administration. obama did not believe in enforcing the border either. they just hid it better. this administration has openly