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this is the purpose of campaigns. to allow somebody like tim scott, who has a frisk message and a terrific story, to go out and perform. tactically, one thing you said is very important. he brings $22 million from his federal account into this campaign. not to mention an outside super pac. this guy has got the money to play for quite a while. and i'm telling you, when you get him out in retail settings, it's going to play. tim scott is infectious guy. when you see him in person, people will say, hey, why not this? i bet on horses, not politicians, but tim scott is one of my favorite people in this campaign. >> they're more predictable. >> they are now. that's for sure. >> bakari, now to you. i want to ask you about the fact that tim scott and nikki haley, both from north carolina. both firsts. tim scott, the first black republican senator and nikki haley, the first asian american governor of the state. just curious if you think that that is a problem. in other words, that they're going to step on each other's

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