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the problem that ron desantis has, and we've been talking about it endlessly, doesn't have a lot of charisma, he's very awkward on the trail. and sometimes he comes across as a humorless robot. and in a place like iowa, in a place like new hampshire where you're going to be greeting all sorts of people from kids with icees to grandmas with icees, he's got some work to do. i think the average small town mayor is probably better at sort of the nitty-gritty of politics than ron desantis is. and we're sort of seeing that over and over in clips like this. >> i mean, no one has more pressure on themselves to be normal at the iowa state fair than ron desantis currently has. and, so, with all those qualities, that is really going to be on display. >> that is very gracious. >> eating a corn dog on camera. >> well, that'll be next month. up next, when you're a member of congress, that's when it seems to be the case. both houses head out of town for