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made over 20 years ago are upheld. >> that's the logistics of this. what's the cultural significance. what is the deeply and pro profoundly disappointing desecration if these remains were to go to the moon? >> first and foremost, in navajo, a medicine man practice for many years. i want to be up front. i'm not a medicine man. one of the things that our elders have told me that the moon is sacred. it's in our songs, our stories, our creation. we have used the moon as a place that we have looked to for hundreds of years to make sure we continue to exist is so they were part of ceremonies that have been around with the-anthe navajo people for a long time. so when this happened in the '90s, it was very clear that we should make sure that we consult our medicine people, consult the navajo people before we do that.