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whether or not he is an officer under section 3 of the 14th amendment, i do not believe there should be a loophole in the constitution for a president. that is not how a nation of laws works. no person is supposed to be above the law. that includes the president. because if not, well, then we have a tyrannical system where a strong man rules at his will if he's above the law. i disagree with that assessment. ultimately it will be up to the united states supreme court. but even more so, it will be up to the american people. no matter what happens in this litigation, it will be up to the american people to save american democracy in 2024. >> as you were classifying that sound bite and the point that trump's attorney made as being unbelievable, are you concerned that making a statement like that might also be influential as it pertains specifically to