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conversely, obviously trump has been leading by such a massive -- has had such a massive lead throughout this race, there's a risk of complacency. i think voters who feel incredibly motivated to go out and vote for trump would look at a 30-point lead and say do i need to go stand in the gym in negative 25-degree weather when he'll clearly run away with this in the end the most likely on hurt haley and desantis and you could see the argument the other way. >> they have the lowest enthusiasm in the world, but she has momentum and that's the thing that other two don't have. if someone has an intangible, nikki has that which is momentum riding in iowa, and donald trump has a 30-point lead or whatever. but at the end of the day i think that iowa has done its job. iowa has called the field. you no longer have chris