we get out? >> precisely, because what is being suggested really is support of an afghan army for many, many years. you asked with what money? well, with our money, tax money. at the same time we're discussing this budget situation. >> right. >> we're really implying a huge amount of money year after year and so-called nation-building in afghanistan or maybe just holding the fort with regard to cities we think weave captured. >> let me ask you a couple of things about the goings on in egypt. first of all, we've had long ties with the egyptian military. they are now in control. do you trust, fully trust the egyptian military to transition to some sort of democratic elections? >> well, i don't think there's a question of trut. i think we take objectively the fact that they are in charge. we are hopeful from whatever advice they are going to take from us that they will in fact have a new constitution or elements of that, that they will begin to build political parties or allow those to be built, but