we completely understand that he is not able to come. but, that the invitation was made in that spirit. >> and to follow up on ben's question earlier, when cia director panetta spoke to nbc and the lawmakers on the hill, he was pretty clear that it was a question of when and not if the photos would be released and so was he overruled? >> a final decision had not been made? >> so he spoke out of line? >> the president made a decision, and there are obviously arguments to be made on each side of this, but the final decision was not made until today. >> so he was just wrong. >> the final decision was not made until today. >> what time? >> this morning. i don't have -- i don't remember precisely, and i did not look at my watch. >> you were with him when he made the decision? >> yes. >> can i clarify something when you talk about the president's role tomorrow in new york, are