gentlemen, let me just begin with a simple question. is mitt romney on the ropes, dr. sabato? >> juan, he is on the ropes. in fact, is he no longer the frontrunner. he has always been a weak frontrunner. i have never seen him over 30. doug keeps up with the polls than i do. i have never seen him over 30% in a national poll. he has generally been in the upper teens or low 20's. i think perry, at least for the time being, is now the new frontrunner. >> juan: doug? >> i think larry is right. i looked at a bunch of state polls today south carolina, iowa, florida. perry is surging. romney is sinking. and bottom line, when a frontrunner is as weak as larry says that romney was and is, then is he no longer the frontrunner. >> juan: well, this is intriguing moment. one, do you think it's going to last for perry because i think the american people in general don't know rick perry at this point. they are coming to know him. is it a temporary femoral moment in the polls or do you think