>> bill: personal story segment tonight. as you may know jesse jackson and al sharpton are two of the most well known defending blacks when he they come under fire. not in the case of herman cain. joining us now from philadelphia dr. marc lamont hill who teaches at columbia university. why are jackson and sharpton sitting this one out, doctor. >> there is nothing to jump in the game for. reverend sharpton and reverend jackson don't jump in every time a black person is involved. they are interested in justice. just like my interest is justice. i don't think anything unjust is happening to herman cain right now. in fact, i think he is getting exactly what he deserves. >> bill: you don't know what he deserves because nobody knows what happened. there haven't been any allegations put forth by anybody specifically. and it just seems to me to be a little -- >> -- that's not what i mean. >> bill: hear we out. you say he is getting what he deserves because you don't like him because is he a