are gone: commerce, education and ... what is the third one, there? the third agency of government ... i would do away with education, the ... commerce ... commerce ... and let's see ... i can't, the third one, i can't. sorry. oops. >>clayton: pain will. so is rick perry texas toast? or can he recover? we have a pollster and a c.e.o. of a strategic research and political strategist. noise to see you. michael, is this part of some sort of larger narrative for rick perry that this was an exclamation or dot at the end of a sentence here for the rick perry campaign, underlining what we thought of his campaign? >>guest: that is his problem, if this happened to ron paul or