job creation. so you really have to take a look at the democrats' agenda and say the dependency and expanding the base of people dependent upon the government is what they're all about. >> see, again -- >> that's the entire objective. >> monica, with all due respect, it's apels and oranges. in other words, every time you go to look for a job there are 5-6 other people in line for that job, food stamp, unemployment benefits, these are helping keep families from starving and that'sing like -- and losing their homes. >> but the criticism of the food stamp program, it's the policy. >> i want to be clear -- right. first of all i love when you blame health care reform which hasn't even gone into effect yet. putting that aside, what newt gingrich is trying to do and it's no small accident he did this in the south is play into our existing prejudices. he's trying to draw up those prejudices to drive a wedge between voters. what he says -- when he says obama is a food stamp president, that's code word for saying government dependency and we're trying to give up -- give a free