robert e. leisure rendered to the union. the anniversary was commemorated across the nation. >> what lessons can we still learn from the civil war today and what do we need to remember most about this important time in our country? here to answer that is the author of the great becomes you know he that series don't know much about series. civil war and hidden history at war. welcome to the show. >> good morning. >> we're both history majors big fans of history. a lot of ignorance about history in america. >> a lot of people say they hate history. what they hate is the dull version they got in high school. battles and speeches. history is about real people doing real things. and when we tell real stories, which i try and do in my book, it becomes a lot more interesting because as william faulkner says the past is never really past. >> that's for sure. you make such a smart point that the lines along which the civil war was fought north vs. south are still the political division that