the middle class and saying something about she was flat broke, was quickly torn up because of the book deals, turned out the clintons were not exactly middle class. so she has a lot of work to do in states like this right here in iowa convincing people she will be that candidate and not the candidate for the rich. >> all right, ed please stay with us we'll look at more perspective from the other side of the aisle, leland? >> from the democrats we'll bring in the former communications director for then vice president al gore. julie, you had had a chance to observe it, was this a very different hillary clinton from 2008 or the same? >> no it's actually a different one, you see her chief strategist who was the chief strategist for barack obama in 2008. and the obama former campaign manager who sat down with her, those are the team of rivals that we're hearing about, ran his campaign and exploited her