will be the one who doesn't go too far either way. we've seen the isolation with rand paul taking them -- we need the republican middle, which was the reagan/nixon foreign policy. one candidate aught to adopt that. >> the problem with that -- >> here's the fact check with rand paul in the latest fox news poll with 4%. >> the problem is that our position globally is now so weak. i believe that a candidate will need and the circumstances require more hawkishness, more aggressiveness, and -- >> more than president obama? because he seems to be pretty hawkish. >> you've got to be kidding me. >> he's the most dumbest thing you've ever seen. >> really? >> hillary clinton has to distance herself. >> to hear people from your party say that. >> it's true. >> he's getting us into fresh war. pat? >> what we need is someone to